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Post by Bret Walker on Feb 18, 2005 16:42:15 GMT -5
If you could add a fifth president to Mount Rushmore, who would it be?
Also, if you could REPLACE one of the presidents on Mount Rushmore, which one, and with whom?
I guess if I could add a fifth president to Mount Rushmore, it'd be Clinton. His environmental policies, budget savvy, and foreign relations made him, in my mind, the best president of my lifetime. Plus it would drive female tourism to Mount Rushmore up 20%. Easily.
I don't know if I'd replace a president, although I'd much rather have Clinton than Roosevelt. Teddy was a tool.
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Post by jelly belly girl on Feb 18, 2005 16:46:03 GMT -5
i totally agree with u.
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Post by The Vonz on Feb 18, 2005 17:01:42 GMT -5
Bush I & II, Reagan and Arnold. I'd pay to see that. Seriously though, what  <--- he said |
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Post by emopunkaz4life on Feb 21, 2005 22:48:29 GMT -5
If you could add a fifth president to Mount Rushmore, who would it be? Also, if you could REPLACE one of the presidents on Mount Rushmore, which one, and with whom? I guess if I could add a fifth president to Mount Rushmore, it'd be Clinton. His environmental policies, budget savvy, and foreign relations made him, in my mind, the best president of my lifetime. Plus it would drive female tourism to Mount Rushmore up 20%. Easily. I don't know if I'd replace a president, although I'd much rather have Clinton than Roosevelt. Teddy was a tool. You're a fucking idiot. You praise Bill Clinton for his environmental policies and then call Teddy a tool? Teddy was the ESSENTIAL conservationist. Know what you're talking about...fattie. |
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Post by The Vonz on Feb 22, 2005 10:19:33 GMT -5
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Post by Bret Walker on Feb 23, 2005 6:50:14 GMT -5
Teddy Roosevelt was a conservationist, true. That's why his face adorns Mount Rushmore in the first place. However, he was a racist and a separatist, and believed that women should not be counted as citizens of this country. And apparently Teddy's conservationism did not extend to other countries, such as Africa and Australia where he hunted endangered animals. The Teddy Bear that bears his name? A stuffed Koala that he killed and gave to his kid. Now, if that's not a tool then I don't know what is.  And for future reference, it's easier to make your argument when you have facts rather than personal digs. |
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Post by emopunkaz4life on Feb 25, 2005 10:49:03 GMT -5
Actually he was on Mount Rushmore because he was in tight with the guy who was making it.
Blah blah blah, Teddy also said that immigrants should have 5 years to learn english or be deported. I'm fine with that. You have to look at the men within the context of the times. Thomas Jefferson was an adamant supporter of slavery but does that make his contribution to this country worthless? Nope.
Bill Clinton is not exactly a saint either. He was also pretty conservative for a democrat. He is however, much better than your ass buddy John Kerry.
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Post by The Vonz on Feb 25, 2005 11:18:57 GMT -5
Oh yeah everyone loved Kerry like   |
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Post by Bret Walker on Mar 4, 2005 17:04:17 GMT -5
Here's an interesting take on this question, which was also apparently posed in the FAA's AOA Highlights (don't ask me what AOA stands for, I only work here!)
FDR WINS SPOT ON RUSHMORE, WITH REAGAN A CLOSE SECOND: Two weeks ago in AOA Highlights, we asked readers what President they would add to the current Mount Rushmore pantheon of Washington, Jefferson, Lincoln, and Teddy Roosevelt. We got 39 responses and the winner is Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who got 16 out of 39. Reagan captured 13 votes. Eleanor Roosevelt got 2 votes. Harry Truman got two votes, plus five others with one vote each.
One of the most interesting comments came from friend and former FAA colleague Jim Burns, who wrote: “My wife and I took a vacation swing through Montana, Wyoming, and North and South Dakota five years ago. Our itinerary included the usual tourist attractions (Black Hills, Devils Tower, Little Big Horn, etc.) At the Mt. Rushmore visitors’ center (to their absolute credit), we were given a surprisingly candid explanation of the political and military events that shaped that area in the late 1800's and that years later resulted in establishment of the monument itself. The quest for gold that led to invasion of the sacred lands of the Sioux, along with a string of broken treaties by the Government, were poor precedents for establishing a monument that depicted White leaders (several of whom held and publicly expressed strong anti-Indian views) in splendid array above the valley floor. Creation of the monument only added to the impression of arrogance and insensitivity on the part of the state and national governments.”
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Post by The Vonz on Mar 4, 2005 19:07:53 GMT -5
Reagan  |
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Post by Bret Walker on Mar 5, 2005 9:28:13 GMT -5
I would put Reagan up only for his contribution to punk rock  Between Reagan and Margaret Thatcher, punk bands always had something to write about in the 80's. |
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